http://collision.forumotion.net/feed/? Latest topics Wed, 15 Oct 2008 21:11:31 GMT 10 http://illiweb.com/fa/prosilver/site_logo.gif http://collision.forumotion.net/feed/? http://collision.forumotion.net/week-1-f6/global-night-commute-video-page-4-t36.htm Michelle I'm not sure that this applies to the direction we are going. Thoughts? Week 1 Wed, 15 Oct 2008 20:40:54 GMT http://collision.forumotion.net/week-1-f6/global-night-commute-video-page-4-t36.htm#150 http://collision.forumotion.net/week-1-f6/global-night-commute-video-page-4-t36.htm http://collision.forumotion.net/10-19-mechurch-f8/an-announcement-t33.htm Cindy I was so touched by the movie (I put details on my facebook status and sent emails) that I saw yesterday called "Fireproof". I had not heard of it, but it was awesome. Can you mention encouraging people to see the movie. I know lots of churches are announcing it, since it's a Christian movie with a wonderful topic and message. Just a thought! 10/19 - MeChurch Mon, 13 Oct 2008 14:53:35 GMT http://collision.forumotion.net/10-19-mechurch-f8/an-announcement-t33.htm#146 http://collision.forumotion.net/10-19-mechurch-f8/an-announcement-t33.htm http://collision.forumotion.net/week-2-f9/amazing-grace-movie-clip-t41.htm Michelle I am still trying to find this on YouTube to link for you guys. Week 2 Wed, 15 Oct 2008 21:11:31 GMT http://collision.forumotion.net/week-2-f9/amazing-grace-movie-clip-t41.htm#155 http://collision.forumotion.net/week-2-f9/amazing-grace-movie-clip-t41.htm http://collision.forumotion.net/week-2-f9/he-ain-t-heavy-he-s-my-brother-song-t40.htm Michelle
You can listen to it here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7HPqi5uVeo&feature=related

I'm not really feeling this one.]]> Week 2 Wed, 15 Oct 2008 20:54:11 GMT http://collision.forumotion.net/week-2-f9/he-ain-t-heavy-he-s-my-brother-song-t40.htm#154 http://collision.forumotion.net/week-2-f9/he-ain-t-heavy-he-s-my-brother-song-t40.htm http://collision.forumotion.net/week-2-f9/les-miserables-video-clip-t39.htm Michelle
I love this movie and think it is amazing, so I'm in favor... If you watch this starting around 6min it is the same part.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJ1u51j7csY

That video is from a high school musical, so obviously the film version is better...]]> Week 2 Wed, 15 Oct 2008 20:50:25 GMT http://collision.forumotion.net/week-2-f9/les-miserables-video-clip-t39.htm#153 http://collision.forumotion.net/week-2-f9/les-miserables-video-clip-t39.htm http://collision.forumotion.net/week-2-f9/before-the-message-begins-t38.htm Michelle I like option 1 a lot. First, I think that Jason will make a great homeless person, but also I think that with the amount of video we've been using lately, this would be a good shift. Thoughts? Week 2 Wed, 15 Oct 2008 20:45:05 GMT http://collision.forumotion.net/week-2-f9/before-the-message-begins-t38.htm#152 http://collision.forumotion.net/week-2-f9/before-the-message-begins-t38.htm http://collision.forumotion.net/week-1-f6/dead-poet-society-clip-t37.htm Michelle I likey? Do you likey? I think it makes a good point. Week 1 Wed, 15 Oct 2008 20:41:46 GMT http://collision.forumotion.net/week-1-f6/dead-poet-society-clip-t37.htm#151 http://collision.forumotion.net/week-1-f6/dead-poet-society-clip-t37.htm http://collision.forumotion.net/week-1-f6/video-clips-t35.htm Michelle Are we going to use the clips from Madagascar? I like them. If so- who has the movie? Week 1 Wed, 15 Oct 2008 20:39:20 GMT http://collision.forumotion.net/week-1-f6/video-clips-t35.htm#149 http://collision.forumotion.net/week-1-f6/video-clips-t35.htm http://collision.forumotion.net/week-1-f6/lead-in-video-t34.htm Michelle I have looked at each of these options and am not a huge fan of any of them. I really like the uprising video, but not for $20. I'm cheap. It's okay, I know. What do you guys think? Week 1 Wed, 15 Oct 2008 20:38:41 GMT http://collision.forumotion.net/week-1-f6/lead-in-video-t34.htm#148 http://collision.forumotion.net/week-1-f6/lead-in-video-t34.htm http://collision.forumotion.net/10-12-crave-freedom-f7/song-idea-let-me-leave-t4.htm Katie If we're going the route of putting up walls and seeking "freedom" to escape getting hurt... "Let Me Leave" by Marc Broussard Video/Audio-Click Here Lyrics How many times have I come to you How many times have you taken me in How have you never quite realized That this will be nothing more than what it's been Why is it that I return to the scene of the crime Though there's nothing I need Between the moments that linger before us Haven't ... 10/12 Crave - Freedom Wed, 17 Sep 2008 00:36:43 GMT http://collision.forumotion.net/10-12-crave-freedom-f7/song-idea-let-me-leave-t4.htm#4 http://collision.forumotion.net/10-12-crave-freedom-f7/song-idea-let-me-leave-t4.htm http://collision.forumotion.net/10-12-crave-freedom-f7/service-game-plan-t32.htm Michelle

Thoughts, additions, changes?]]> 10/12 Crave - Freedom Mon, 06 Oct 2008 17:54:16 GMT http://collision.forumotion.net/10-12-crave-freedom-f7/service-game-plan-t32.htm#143 http://collision.forumotion.net/10-12-crave-freedom-f7/service-game-plan-t32.htm http://collision.forumotion.net/10-5-crave-acceptance-f2/final-game-plan-t31.htm Michelle 11:12 Collision Video 11:15 Announcements- Jason 11:18 Worship- Collision Band Everyone Not to Us Free to Worship11:40 Teaching- Curran 12:05 Video Clip from Center Stage 12:08 Song Perfect- Collision Band 12:15 Benediction- Curran Objections/Changes? 10/5 Crave - Acceptance Wed, 01 Oct 2008 20:51:33 GMT http://collision.forumotion.net/10-5-crave-acceptance-f2/final-game-plan-t31.htm#141 http://collision.forumotion.net/10-5-crave-acceptance-f2/final-game-plan-t31.htm http://collision.forumotion.net/10-5-crave-acceptance-f2/drama-possibility-t22.htm Jason http://www.willowcreek.com/wca_prodsb.asp?invtid=PR24822

Check out the link above, see if it works.]]> 10/5 Crave - Acceptance Wed, 24 Sep 2008 18:33:45 GMT http://collision.forumotion.net/10-5-crave-acceptance-f2/drama-possibility-t22.htm#86 http://collision.forumotion.net/10-5-crave-acceptance-f2/drama-possibility-t22.htm http://collision.forumotion.net/10-19-mechurch-f8/prayer-of-st-francis-t12.htm Katie I'm sure most of you have probably heard this at some time or another. This is one of my favorite prayers - from way back to when I was a kid in the Catholic church. I think it would be a really great meditation to close out the service and transition us from "Me Church" to the service-driven message of the following weeks. It basically talks about turning everything around so it's not about "ME" - it's about everything else. We could read it, or there are also several ... 10/19 - MeChurch Thu, 18 Sep 2008 16:29:11 GMT http://collision.forumotion.net/10-19-mechurch-f8/prayer-of-st-francis-t12.htm#32 http://collision.forumotion.net/10-19-mechurch-f8/prayer-of-st-francis-t12.htm http://collision.forumotion.net/hope-lives-f3/i-don-t-have-the-handouts-with-me-so-i-don-t-know-which-week-is-which-but-t30.htm Katie
http://www.godtube.com/view_video.php?viewkey=30bccb72168dc75a983f]]> Hope Lives Tue, 30 Sep 2008 18:49:54 GMT http://collision.forumotion.net/hope-lives-f3/i-don-t-have-the-handouts-with-me-so-i-don-t-know-which-week-is-which-but-t30.htm#129 http://collision.forumotion.net/hope-lives-f3/i-don-t-have-the-handouts-with-me-so-i-don-t-know-which-week-is-which-but-t30.htm http://collision.forumotion.net/feedback-f18/poll-overall-service-t25.htm Jason OK, Let's give ourselves a grade on the overall service on Sunday. Feedback Mon, 29 Sep 2008 13:50:24 GMT http://collision.forumotion.net/feedback-f18/poll-overall-service-t25.htm#102 http://collision.forumotion.net/feedback-f18/poll-overall-service-t25.htm http://collision.forumotion.net/10-12-crave-freedom-f7/another-song-idea-t23.htm Cindy How about doing the Newsboys, I am free for worship? Very energetic and easy to sing along to. lyrics: Through you the blind will see Through you the mute will sing Through you the dead will rise Through you all hearts will praise Through you the darkness flees Through you my heart screams I am free Yes I am free I AM FREE TO RUN I AM FREE TO DANCE I AM FREE TO LIVE FOR YOU I AM FREE Through you the kingdom comes Through you the battle's ... 10/12 Crave - Freedom Wed, 24 Sep 2008 23:41:13 GMT http://collision.forumotion.net/10-12-crave-freedom-f7/another-song-idea-t23.htm#91 http://collision.forumotion.net/10-12-crave-freedom-f7/another-song-idea-t23.htm http://collision.forumotion.net/10-12-crave-freedom-f7/teaching-freedom-t29.htm Jason
http://www.willowcreek.com/service.asp?servid=27]]> 10/12 Crave - Freedom Mon, 29 Sep 2008 14:17:53 GMT http://collision.forumotion.net/10-12-crave-freedom-f7/teaching-freedom-t29.htm#106 http://collision.forumotion.net/10-12-crave-freedom-f7/teaching-freedom-t29.htm http://collision.forumotion.net/feedback-f18/poll-music-t28.htm Jason Feedback for the music. This is kind rolling song selection, execution and overall musical experience into one. Feedback Mon, 29 Sep 2008 13:54:59 GMT http://collision.forumotion.net/feedback-f18/poll-music-t28.htm#105 http://collision.forumotion.net/feedback-f18/poll-music-t28.htm http://collision.forumotion.net/feedback-f18/poll-teaching-t27.htm Jason Critique the message. High points...low points. Feedback Mon, 29 Sep 2008 13:53:38 GMT http://collision.forumotion.net/feedback-f18/poll-teaching-t27.htm#104 http://collision.forumotion.net/feedback-f18/poll-teaching-t27.htm http://collision.forumotion.net/feedback-f18/poll-technical-quality-audio-visual-t26.htm Jason This includes everything techie: sound, video board (TV's), camera work...etc Feedback Mon, 29 Sep 2008 13:52:25 GMT http://collision.forumotion.net/feedback-f18/poll-technical-quality-audio-visual-t26.htm#103 http://collision.forumotion.net/feedback-f18/poll-technical-quality-audio-visual-t26.htm http://collision.forumotion.net/9-28-crave-security-f4/final-game-plan-t24.htm Michelle Does Everyone agree? Collision Video Opening Song (Take It All) Video Announcements Worship Teaching Closing Song (Closer) The biggest question mark for me is where to put the video so that the humor can be enjoyed without it taking away from the moment that we are in or are approaching? Do you think it would be better after a lead-in from the teaching? Thoughts...? 9/28 Crave - Security Sat, 27 Sep 2008 21:27:12 GMT http://collision.forumotion.net/9-28-crave-security-f4/final-game-plan-t24.htm#98 http://collision.forumotion.net/9-28-crave-security-f4/final-game-plan-t24.htm http://collision.forumotion.net/10-5-crave-acceptance-f2/song-idea-alanis-morisette-perfect-t7.htm Katie She made a really awesome acoustic version of her Jagged Little Pill album about a year ago and this song is so great on it. Maybe it's too soon to put a song together for this week, but I think it could be really good. Plus I think Michelle singing Alanis would be rockin' Video/Audio Click HERE Lyrics: Sometimes is never quite enough If you're flawless, then you'll win my love Don't forget to win first place Don't forget to keep that smile on your face Be a good ... 10/5 Crave - Acceptance Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:52:24 GMT http://collision.forumotion.net/10-5-crave-acceptance-f2/song-idea-alanis-morisette-perfect-t7.htm#9 http://collision.forumotion.net/10-5-crave-acceptance-f2/song-idea-alanis-morisette-perfect-t7.htm http://collision.forumotion.net/9-28-crave-security-f4/skit-for-security-t20.htm Jason Here's the skit we came up with. They are shooting tonight, so post your changes fast! In other words... [url]click here Cameraperson Grip Reporter Bystander Vagrant Reporter: Where’s the subject matter expert? This newscast about hurricane preparedness is going live in a matter of seconds, and we don’t have a hurricane preparedness expert! What are we going to do…(hands on head) BAD THINGS ARE HAPPENING!!! (Grabs a person walking by) Reporter: Have you ... 9/28 Crave - Security Tue, 23 Sep 2008 20:43:29 GMT http://collision.forumotion.net/9-28-crave-security-f4/skit-for-security-t20.htm#60 http://collision.forumotion.net/9-28-crave-security-f4/skit-for-security-t20.htm http://collision.forumotion.net/10-12-crave-freedom-f7/what-direction-are-we-taking-t3.htm Katie
Or are we saying we try to be "free" by distancing ourselves from God and others?

We never really discussed... just wondering ]]> 10/12 Crave - Freedom Tue, 16 Sep 2008 23:49:01 GMT http://collision.forumotion.net/10-12-crave-freedom-f7/what-direction-are-we-taking-t3.htm#3 http://collision.forumotion.net/10-12-crave-freedom-f7/what-direction-are-we-taking-t3.htm http://collision.forumotion.net/9-28-crave-security-f4/good-song-something-s-missing-by-john-mayer-t17.htm Katie Obv not enough time to learn it BUT... maybe there's a way to work it into the service in some other way? Listen to the Song Here! Lyrics are below: "Something's Missing" I'm not alone, I wish I was. Cause then I'd know, I was down because I couldn't find, a friend around To love me like, they do right now. They do right now. I'm dizzy from the shopping malls I searched for joy, but I bought it all It doesn't help the hunger pains and a ... 9/28 Crave - Security Tue, 23 Sep 2008 18:42:52 GMT http://collision.forumotion.net/9-28-crave-security-f4/good-song-something-s-missing-by-john-mayer-t17.htm#51 http://collision.forumotion.net/9-28-crave-security-f4/good-song-something-s-missing-by-john-mayer-t17.htm http://collision.forumotion.net/9-21-crave-intimacy-f5/service-feedback-poll-t15.htm Jason Rate the service, and leave your feedback below. In the future we can create a poll for each element in the service. For example. We can rate the Music, the special elements, the message ...etc 9/21 Crave- Intimacy Mon, 22 Sep 2008 11:11:11 GMT http://collision.forumotion.net/9-21-crave-intimacy-f5/service-feedback-poll-t15.htm#42 http://collision.forumotion.net/9-21-crave-intimacy-f5/service-feedback-poll-t15.htm http://collision.forumotion.net/9-28-crave-security-f4/response-ideas-t5.htm Katie Not sure where we could go with this, but what if we had clippings from various magazines of either headlines in ads, key words, models, etc. (You know, so many magazines have a section with some new handbag or pair of shoes that is labeled "MUST HAVE FOR 2008" or something like that, and all these ads that promise happiness or acceptance if you use a certain kind of shampoo or cologne, etc.) What if we had everyone look through and find one that was something they struggle with. ... 9/28 Crave - Security Wed, 17 Sep 2008 00:50:01 GMT http://collision.forumotion.net/9-28-crave-security-f4/response-ideas-t5.htm#5 http://collision.forumotion.net/9-28-crave-security-f4/response-ideas-t5.htm http://collision.forumotion.net/feedback-f17/feedback-for-intimacy-t21.htm Cindy I writing this from my deathbed, as I have the flu. But since Jason wanted something, here it is. Sunday was great. I loved the cross being front and center again. It's why we are there and it's always been important to me, so I was glad to see it back. Message was great, although the video problem in the beginning kind of messed up the surprise factor that she was sitting next to him...but that didn't ruin the message. I love the love languages thing and want it to be a study. Jason said ... Feedback Tue, 23 Sep 2008 23:59:07 GMT http://collision.forumotion.net/feedback-f17/feedback-for-intimacy-t21.htm#62 http://collision.forumotion.net/feedback-f17/feedback-for-intimacy-t21.htm http://collision.forumotion.net/9-28-crave-security-f4/service-change-t16.htm Jason I posted that Curran is wanting to do Approval on the 12th of October, so we have to bump up the Security and Freedom. That makes Security this week. We need input! 9/28 Crave - Security Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:12:57 GMT http://collision.forumotion.net/9-28-crave-security-f4/service-change-t16.htm#45 http://collision.forumotion.net/9-28-crave-security-f4/service-change-t16.htm http://collision.forumotion.net/9-28-crave-security-f4/sermon-text-wow-a-few-days-early-t19.htm Jason
Eccl Chapter 2:1-11

Eccl 4:1-12

Eccl 5:10-17

Matthew 6:19-24

Eccl 12:13, 14

Obviously cannot use all of them, but probably some of each.]]> 9/28 Crave - Security Tue, 23 Sep 2008 18:57:59 GMT http://collision.forumotion.net/9-28-crave-security-f4/sermon-text-wow-a-few-days-early-t19.htm#57 http://collision.forumotion.net/9-28-crave-security-f4/sermon-text-wow-a-few-days-early-t19.htm http://collision.forumotion.net/9-28-crave-security-f4/movie-clip-blast-from-the-past-t18.htm Katie Not sure what direction you're going, but what about using a clip from the movie "Blast From the Past"? That's the one with Brendan Fraser and Christopher Walken where the family hides in a nuclear fallout shelter for 35 years because the dad thought there was a bomb, when it was really a plane crashing into their yard. After 35 years, the son ventures out into the world to see what's left of it, but finds out that life went on without them there... Kind of a case of paranoia taken ... 9/28 Crave - Security Tue, 23 Sep 2008 18:49:36 GMT http://collision.forumotion.net/9-28-crave-security-f4/movie-clip-blast-from-the-past-t18.htm#54 http://collision.forumotion.net/9-28-crave-security-f4/movie-clip-blast-from-the-past-t18.htm http://collision.forumotion.net/9-21-crave-intimacy-f5/i-found-the-willow-creek-drama-topic-list-t13.htm Katie http://www.willowcreek.com/wca_index.asp?section=drama

You are welcome ]]> 9/21 Crave- Intimacy Fri, 19 Sep 2008 00:08:54 GMT http://collision.forumotion.net/9-21-crave-intimacy-f5/i-found-the-willow-creek-drama-topic-list-t13.htm#39 http://collision.forumotion.net/9-21-crave-intimacy-f5/i-found-the-willow-creek-drama-topic-list-t13.htm http://collision.forumotion.net/9-28-crave-security-f4/funny-photo-example-of-false-security-t11.htm Katie http://www.autoblog.com/2008/09/15/how-not-to-protect-your-car-from-a-hurricane/

Not necessarily appropriate, but I thought it would make you all laugh anyway ]]> 9/28 Crave - Security Thu, 18 Sep 2008 13:32:14 GMT http://collision.forumotion.net/9-28-crave-security-f4/funny-photo-example-of-false-security-t11.htm#27 http://collision.forumotion.net/9-28-crave-security-f4/funny-photo-example-of-false-security-t11.htm http://collision.forumotion.net/10-5-crave-acceptance-f2/possible-date-change-t10.htm Jason Curran is scheduled in Collision on the 12th of October, and this is a topic he really wants to teach and it fits into the lectionary scripture. We may want to move this around if possible. We will need to get he and Dave logged in on here to offer suggestions as well. 10/5 Crave - Acceptance Thu, 18 Sep 2008 02:33:25 GMT http://collision.forumotion.net/10-5-crave-acceptance-f2/possible-date-change-t10.htm#22 http://collision.forumotion.net/10-5-crave-acceptance-f2/possible-date-change-t10.htm http://collision.forumotion.net/10-5-crave-acceptance-f2/another-song-idea-t9.htm Cindy This would probably have to be tuned down a bit, but Green Day's Road to Acceptance might be an option. Here's the lyrics: I always waste my time just wondering What the next man thinks of me I’ll never do exactly what I want And I’ll sculpt my life for your acceptance I feel forgotten Feel like rotting (do you feel the same) Adolescence Just can’t make sense (it’s calling my name) I take a look around And all the things I’ve found I call it blind hatred If ... 10/5 Crave - Acceptance Thu, 18 Sep 2008 02:27:05 GMT http://collision.forumotion.net/10-5-crave-acceptance-f2/another-song-idea-t9.htm#19 http://collision.forumotion.net/10-5-crave-acceptance-f2/another-song-idea-t9.htm http://collision.forumotion.net/10-5-crave-acceptance-f2/video-clip-campaign-for-real-beauty-t8.htm Katie If we think we'll be accepted when we achieve this image of perfection that we see in magazines, this is an incredible look at how distorted that image is. It's a fast-forward video of a modeling shoot and all the photo retouching that goes on. If God created us in His image, we need to stop straining to become this false version of "perfection"... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hibyAJOSW8U Video - Click Here 10/5 Crave - Acceptance Wed, 17 Sep 2008 21:05:53 GMT http://collision.forumotion.net/10-5-crave-acceptance-f2/video-clip-campaign-for-real-beauty-t8.htm#11 http://collision.forumotion.net/10-5-crave-acceptance-f2/video-clip-campaign-for-real-beauty-t8.htm http://collision.forumotion.net/9-21-crave-intimacy-f5/thoughts-about-the-service-t6.htm Jason For some reason, the Psalms as showing intimacy with God are jumping out to me. This could go a couple of ways: 1. God's recognition of man and woman needing intimacy, needing one another. As seen in Genesis. God looked at Adam alone and thought there was something missing. Looking at Ephesians 5:31 For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh. I really like working around this one flesh, one personhood of intimacy, ... 9/21 Crave- Intimacy Wed, 17 Sep 2008 19:38:53 GMT http://collision.forumotion.net/9-21-crave-intimacy-f5/thoughts-about-the-service-t6.htm#6 http://collision.forumotion.net/9-21-crave-intimacy-f5/thoughts-about-the-service-t6.htm http://collision.forumotion.net/9-21-crave-intimacy-f5/what-are-our-take-aways-and-hows-t2.htm Missy
What do we want people to take away this week from the service?

What best does this?

video
drama
music
talk
art
worship "hands on" experience
traditional worship liturgy, ie communion, baptism, etc.]]> 9/21 Crave- Intimacy Tue, 16 Sep 2008 23:40:13 GMT http://collision.forumotion.net/9-21-crave-intimacy-f5/what-are-our-take-aways-and-hows-t2.htm#2 http://collision.forumotion.net/9-21-crave-intimacy-f5/what-are-our-take-aways-and-hows-t2.htm http://collision.forumotion.net/9-21-crave-intimacy-f5/text-for-this-week-t1.htm Missy What is the text for this week? 9/21 Crave- Intimacy Tue, 16 Sep 2008 23:37:41 GMT http://collision.forumotion.net/9-21-crave-intimacy-f5/text-for-this-week-t1.htm#1 http://collision.forumotion.net/9-21-crave-intimacy-f5/text-for-this-week-t1.htm